Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/03/1996 02:23 PM House JUD

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 HCR 30 - STUDENT RIGHTS                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 077                                                                    
                                                                               
 KRISTY TIBBLES, Legislative Aide, Representative Joe Green read the           
 sponsor statement regarding HCR 30 into the record.                           
                                                                               
 "House Concurrent Resolution 30 was introduced to send a strong               
 message to students, parents and schools that education and school            
 safety are top priorities with the 19th Legislature.  Education               
 should be the key concern of a parent sending a child to school,              
 yet the issue of safety has surpassed this concern.  In 1940, the             
 major problems in public schools identified by teachers were                  
 talking out of turn, chewing gum, making noise in the classroom,              
 running in the halls, cutting in line, littering, and disobeying              
 the dress code.  Educators now consider the top problems to be                
 assaults by students on teachers and other students, weapons in               
 school, racial or ethnic attacks, gang disruptions, shootings and             
 knifings.                                                                     
                                                                               
 While these problems do not occur as often as they do in schools in           
 other states, violence in Alaska schools is increasing.  For                  
 example, at Bartlett High School in Anchorage a trial policy was              
 enacted to prevent weapons from being brought to school.  The                 
 policy states that all backpacks, book bags, and large purses must            
 remain in the student's hall lockers from 7:30 a.m. until 2:00 p.m.           
                                                                               
 School should be a safe haven for learning and our students should            
 not be burdened with intimidation and fear of violence.  Children             
 are one of the state's most valuable resources for the future                 
 economic and social well-being of the state.  This resolution                 
 declares that our children have a right to be provided with a safe,           
 orderly, and drug free environment in which they can learn, and               
 that they have a right to high academic standards in order to                 
 prepare them to meet the challenges they will encounter in the                
 future.                                                                       
                                                                               
 The conditions that allow students to become disenfranchised need             
 to be identified and reworked.  Parents, teachers, and                        
 administrators are taking positive action throughout the state to             
 address these issues and the passage of HCR 30 would demonstrate              
 the full support of the Legislature towards these efforts.  With              
 the cooperation of parents, educators, and elected officials, we              
 can all work together to provide our children the quality education           
 they need and deserve."                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 298                                                                    
                                                                               
 THOMAS H. DAHL, Assistant Attorney General, Department of Law                 
 testified that they have reviewed HCR 30 and have been in                     
 conversation with Representative Green's staff about some of their            
 concerns.  Even though this is only a resolution and as such does             
 not have the force of law, the courts have construed resolutions              
 from legislatures as a demonstration of the intent of the state.              
 Their concern is that this catalogue of "rights" which are asserted           
 by the legislature in this resolution and availed to students                 
 implies that if these rights are made available to them, a remedy             
 is also available.  It's a maxim in the law that every right                  
 implies a remedy.  The remedy which the Department of Law is                  
 concerned about is that the state is setting itself up as a target            
 defendant for students which may have some grievance against a                
 school that might be enumerated in the catalogue of "rights"                  
 included in HCR 30.                                                           
                                                                               
 MR. DAHL stated that there is a regulation which exists now under             
 4 AAC 07.010 through .090 and this regulation deals with the rights           
 and responsibilities of students.  It's not nearly as specific as             
 this resolution.  Their preference would be to take some of the               
 language included in this existing regulation and if the                      
 legislature wants to express it's will to school districts and that           
 they take responsibility to search for ways by which students might           
 attain the goals as set forth quite well in the resolution, they              
 could still do so.  He pointed out that there were some clear                 
 objectives and goals in the resolution that were noble and need to            
 be honored.  The department did not want to denigrate the                     
 importance of these goals.  Their concern was that the objectives             
 are couched in terms of "rights" that the state confers, albeit               
 obliquely through a resolution, upon students and that this "sets"            
 the state up and possibly school districts up as defendants.                  
                                                                               
 Number 536                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN asked if Mr. Dahl had been in contact with           
 the attorney which helped his office draft the bill.  The reason he           
 asked this was that it is this attorney's opinion that the                    
 resolution doesn't set the state up as a target for litigation, but           
 they are sending a strong message of what they would like to see              
 for schools and their students.  Alaska is one of many states that            
 will enact student rights resolutions and to his knowledge none of            
 these states have been taken to court thus far.                               
                                                                               
 MR. DAHL said he had not been in contact with their counsel and he            
 has also not seen the written opinion drafted by this same                    
 attorney.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 618                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE CYNTHIA TOOHEY thought that a simple solution to               
 this "rights" problem would be to substitute the word "wish"                  
 instead of "right."                                                           
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN felt as though this change would make the                
 resolution so weak that it wouldn't be of any value.  He added that           
 if they could resolve the issue of liability exposure, the                    
 Department of Law has submitted a recommended alternative to this             
 resolution with very minor alterations.  He said he would prefer              
 the resolution as written, but if this resolution does expose the             
 state, he said he'd like to see what the Department suggests.                 
                                                                               
 Number 729                                                                    
                                                                               
 MIKE FORD, Attorney, Legislative Legal Counsel stated that he had             
 prepared a written opinion regarding this resolution and the                  
 department's position is that liability doesn't flow from the                 
 passage of a resolution.  He said he couldn't tell them that it               
 isn't possible that a court in the future would use this resolution           
 as some part of it's decision process, certainly this could happen,           
 but to say that there is exposure as a result of this resolution is           
 stretching this point.  Liability flows from a number of things, it           
 flows from statute, court decisions which expand the common law,              
 but usually it is based on a reasoned analysis of a number of                 
 complex factors.                                                              
                                                                               
 MR. FORD noted that one question which this resolution raises is              
 what rights exactly do students have.  Do they have the right to a            
 certain environment?  He felt a resolution such as this one did not           
 expose the legislature or the state to any liability.  He felt that           
 there was a distinct difference of the process between a resolution           
 being adopted and the adoption of a law.  There are reasons for               
 this difference.  There is not the three readings requirement for             
 a resolution, it doesn't have to be referred to a committee and it            
 doesn't have to go to the governor.  The governor can't veto it.              
 There are another number of formal steps which someone has to go              
 through to adopt a law which does not have to be preformed for a              
 resolution.  The legislature passes hundreds of resolutions every             
 year.  To say that these are going to trigger an expansion of the             
 law in some direction, while at least in this particular case, it             
 is their opinion that it does not.  He understood the concern of              
 the Department of Law and again he couldn't tell them for certain             
 that this resolution wouldn't be a part of some expansion of the              
 law in this direction.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 865                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN PORTER stated that his first reading of the bill set off             
 a "siren" in his head that while they have passed hundreds of                 
 resolutions, this was the first one that he has seen which says,              
 "you citizen have a right," a right which he felt doesn't exist               
 currently.  He said he had concerns about the word "right."                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN offered that Chairman Porter had read this               
 resolution as imparting a right to a student, rather than a                   
 resolution which says the student "should" have this right.  This             
 is all resolutions ever do is suggest this is the desire of the               
 legislature to do whatever the resolution says, yet no where in any           
 of the resolutions passed thus far has it imparted or suggested               
 that the legislature is granting this right.  A resolution is just            
 a position statement and they have no force in law.                           
                                                                               
 Number 965                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN PORTER noted that he agreed with Mr. Ford that this                  
 resolution doesn't establish a right as if it were in the                     
 constitution, but what they have in the constitution are state                
 obligations now for education and if the legislature passes a                 
 resolution it certainly could be used as an indication of                     
 legislative intent on how they think the existing constitutional              
 rights should be interpreted.  Quite frankly, the right to a drug-            
 free school is an impossible goal in a free society.  As much as he           
 would love this to be true, it is an unreachable goal and he didn't           
 want to see a school district or the Department of Education in               
 court trying to defend this position.                                         
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN said that this is exactly what this resolution           
 will do, it says that "you as part of this legislation would love             
 to have a drug-free school and to the best of our ability we should           
 try and encourage that.  We may never get there, but that doesn't             
 make it not a resolution saying that this is the feeling of the               
 people that are right now manning the Senate and the House of this            
 state."                                                                       
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN PORTER said he wouldn't have any objection saying it that            
 way, but what's written in the resolution is the "right" to these             
 goals.  He said he would be relieved if the word "right" was                  
 completely taken out of the resolution, but in terms of goals,                
 objectives, etc. that's another thing.                                        
                                                                               
 Number 1124                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE CYNTHIA TOOHEY mentioned an example of a "patient              
 rights" document posted in nursing homes.                                     
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN PORTER noted that if they grant the right to a drug-free             
 school this might be interpreted to mean unannounced locker                   
 searchers.                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. FORD said that they could speak in terms of goals, say for                
 example, a drug-free school, rather than a right.                             
                                                                               
 Number 1200                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN noted that this suggestion ran parallel to the           
 draft of legislation submitted by the Department of Law, which                
 addresses "desires", doing away with the word "right."                        
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE said he favored the insertion of the word            
 responsibilities after the word student on line 2 of the Department           
 of Law's version, since the student's are responsible for a drug              
 free school environment as well.  A lengthy discussion regarding              
 changes to this legislation followed.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 1284                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN proposed changes to the Department of Law's              
 version in the first paragraph as noted in the following amendment            
 as outlined.  He said that this language would turn the whole                 
 concept of the intent around which refers to student rights by                
 deleting the phrase, "with specific attention to standards of" from           
 the first paragraph and adding the word "including."  He suggested            
 also as part of amendment number 1, the adoption of the Department            
 of Law's version of this legislation.                                         
                                                                               
 Number 1560                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TOOHEY made a motion to adopt amendment number 1               
 based on Representative Green's suggested change as follows:                  
                                                                               
 BE IT RESOLVED that the Alaska State Legislature encourages all               
 school districts in Alaska to develop and adopt operating                     
 guidelines and procedures relating to student rights and                      
 responsibilities, including student behavior, treatment, and                  
 discipline.  In developing these operating guidelines and                     
 procedures, the school district should consider:                              
                                                                               
 (1)  ways to maintain schools that are safe, orderly and drug free;           
                                                                               
 (2)  ways to develop clear discipline codes with fair and                     
 consistently enforced consequences for misbehavior;                           
                                                                               
 (3)  ways to make resources available to encourage and maintain a             
 physically and mentally healthy lifestyle;                                    
 (4)  ways to create and maintain a learning environment that is               
 free of violent and chronically disruptive behavior;                          
                                                                               
 (5)  ways to develop and encourage courtesy and mutual respect                
 among students, teachers and staff;                                           
                                                                               
 (6)  ways to create and maintain classrooms with clearly stated and           
 rigorous academic standards;                                                  
                                                                               
 (7)  ways to equip and maintain classrooms with all instructional             
 materials needed to carry out a rigorous academic program;                    
                                                                               
 (8)  ways to employ, nurture, and keep teachers who know their                
 subject matter and how to teach it;                                           
                                                                               
 (9)  ways to create a learning environment in schools and                     
 classrooms where high grades stand for high achievement and                   
 promotion is earned;                                                          
                                                                               
 (10) ways to create and maintain schools where the award of a high            
 school diploma communicates the perception that the student has the           
 knowledge and skills essential for college or a good job; and                 
                                                                               
 (11) ways to generate and maintain the support of parents, the                
 community, public officials, and business in a mutual effort to               
 uphold high standards of conduct and achievement.                             
                                                                               
 There being no objection, amendment number 1 was so moved.                    
                                                                               
 Number 1615                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE made a motion to move amendment number 2 which           
 entailed deleting the words "the perception" from clause 10 as                
 noted above and add "and responsibilities" to the title of the                
 resolution after the word "rights."  There being no objection, it             
 was so moved.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 1719                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE TOOHEY made a motion to move House Concurrent                  
 Resolution 30 from committee with individual recommendations and a            
 zero fiscal note.  There being no objection, it was so moved.                 
                                                                               

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